Leah Gervais: He visionaries. Welcome back to the Your Biggest Vision Show. I am your host, Leah Gervais. I am very excited and honored to have honored to have Stefanie Peters with us here today. She is the founder of Lady boss. She is the ultimate lady boss, and she is going to share with us her story and share with us for approach and resilience and how you can bring out your inner lady boss in your life. So thank you for being here, Stefanie.

Stefanie Peters: I’m honored. Thanks for the opportunity.

Leah Gervais: My pleasure. So before we dive into your story and what you do, could you please share in a sentence or two kind of a elevator pitch of what it is that you do nowadays? 

Stefanie Peters: Yes. Well, I actually founded Lady Boss empire, which is a faith-based empowerment platform and resource center for women. So ultimately what I do, I bridge the gap between where women are and where they ultimately want to go and give them the tools and resources.

Leah Gervais: Oh, beautiful. Well, I love that. So where were you when you started? Take us a little bit? Well, actually, let me ask you a more specific question. What did you think you were going to be when you grew up?

Stefanie Peters: I thought I was going to be a carbon copy in my own right of Oprah. So that went interesting. Uh, no, actually when I was a little girl, I always had envisioned doing different interviews of inspirational stories of how people got to where they are today and really pull out the, the tools to help people to dream again, of what’s possible for them. I always just, she was my mentor. She was that visionary that I thought, Hey, if I could have anything that would hold a candle to her, that would be the,

Leah Gervais: Oh my gosh. So you’ve always known, it’s like clear as day to you that this is what you were meant to do.

Stefanie Peters: You know, I have, I’ve my mom even jokes. She’s like Stefanie came out a lady boss. She always knew what she wanted to do when she wanted to do it. But I will tell you, I have hit a lot of roadblocks. And as hard as those road roadblocks have been, I think it’s been such a beautiful gift that I believe God has even given me so I can be able to relate with so many other people when I was like, even from the get-go, I didn’t have a lot of compassion for people, but as I have hit the pavement hard, it’s really helped me to see the other side and put my arm around women that before I never would have, and just say, you know, breathe that belief into them. You can do more. You can be more, you can step into what you were meant to do. So it’s, I think anytime that you hit those ultimate, like rock bottom moments that you feel like maybe life was ending. There’s so many beautiful gifts in the process.

Leah Gervais: I love that you share that. I, um, and I love that you really bring God into your business, send it to your practice. I am Catholic. And just today I was reading the story of King David. And when he was crown King, he was, I think like in his teenager he was a teenager, but he didn’t actually be, or when God told him he would be the King, but he didn’t actually become the, until he was 30. So for all those years he was doing kind of like peasant-like work or things that could have been fit, like to be undeed or, you know, it was just such a great reminder of how, just because you have kind of a destination in mind, or even if you feel really clear that God has put that in your heart, you have to start framing it as everything on your way to get there is preparing you to get there.

Even if you can’t see it right then, or even if it doesn’t feel like it, because you’re like, what is this supposed to be? Like, I thought I was going to be the King or I thought I was going to have this great dream or I thought it was going to be Oprah. And now I’m having all these roadblocks and the way that you’ve kind of reframed that as is so beautiful and so powerful. Um, so what, when, so you were born a lady boss and you kind of always had this vision. What were the first steps you took toward it? When did you start to pursue that vision?

Stefanie Peters: Well, when I graduated from high school transitioning over to college, I knew that I didn’t want to do the nine to five. Like I didn’t want to trade hours for dollars. I didn’t want to join the 40, 60, 40 club where you work for like 40 years, 60 hours a week. And then they retire on 40% of the income that most can’t live on in the first place. I wanted options and freedom. And so I thought, what is my brand? I love teaching on total wellness and actually just a little bit of a backtrack. So when I was in seventh grade, I got very, very rejected by someone that I looked up to on another level. And so it really made me at first when I was just a little girl, I was very outgoing, loved people, but because of that rejection, I really pulled back.

So my parents, they actually put me into Dale Carnegie and they’re like, you need some people skills. So I took that first course and it really reignited how much I loved people. And so those principles, once I graduated from Dale Carnegie to ask me to coach and train for them. So even at the age of 18 or even 17, I was training 40 and 50 year olds. And it was, it was such a fun thing. I felt like I’ve found my true inner self again, and really rediscovered who I knew that God meant me to be. And so from there, uh, I decided that, Hey, you know, I don’t want to go the traditional path. I need to figure it out. Cause I didn’t know exactly how I wanted to get to the ultimate vision. I just knew that that was the ultimate thing.

So I really thought, what is my brand and what do I want to put out into the world? And I knew it was health and really teaching on total wellness. So physical wellness, financial, personal, and environmental. So I actually- an inc. 500 company, they, um, approached me and they said, you know, we really love what you have to offer as far as your training leadership, that type of thing. We would love for you to partner with us. And there was actually a mentor that recruited me for them. And so I just decided to go all in with that company. And can I just tell you thought I was going to skyrocket to the top and that it was like the farthest thing from the truth the first six months? I don’t, I honestly, I don’t even want to count how many no’s, how many times I got rejected partnering with that inc 500 company, but about six months in, I was getting so frustrated.

And I remember sitting across the table from a guy who I was like showing him the in’s and out’s of it. And he stopped me five minutes in and he said, do you really think you’re going to be successful? You’re 18 years old. You have no prior business experience. If I were you, I would go get a real job and make something of my life. Good luck kid. And I had already gotten so many no’s up until that point. I got so upset. I said, Oh, I got to go. Like, I literally packed up my stuff so quick. I remember it like it was yesterday and I ran to my car and I started balling. And I’m like, I feel like this is what you call me to do. And I was like that God, I was mad at the world. I was just like, what is going on?

So I called up my mom who was like the ultimate cheerleader. And I said, you know what? I’m just not ultimately meant to be an entrepreneur. I just, I can’t do this thing. I was so upset. And she said, Oh, well, come on over to my house. We’ll talk about it. And we always joke, like I would go walk around with her at the therapy pond. And after like one round, I would feel like life is all better. And she’s completely drained. Like I was this emotional rollercoaster. I’m 18 years old. And so we walked around one time. It wasn’t making it any better. So she said, okay, you know, let’s walk around one more time, Stef. And we walked around that second time and she was saying her hoo-rah speech, it wasn’t doing anything. And I remember walking up the driveway with her and I’m like, it’s just not worth it.

And she, it was like a flip of a switch. She like a whole nother mama P we call her mama P uh, a whole nother mama P came on the scene and she said, Stef, you can either stand the heat or you can get out of the kitchen. Entrepreneurship is not for everyone. Obviously it’s not for you. And it was like a flip of a switch. I was so upset that my own mother just started to not believe in me. Cause she was the one that kept me going. And I remember running down into their bathroom downstairs and I looked straight in the mirror and I’m like, God, why are you making this so hard? And I heard this still, small voice. This is not about you. This is about transforming other people’s lives. And if you keep going down your own path and if it’s all about the titles and the rewards and all those things, I am going to stop you dead in your tracks.

But as soon as you shift why you’re doing this watch out, I will open doors that no man can shut and I will do in an instant what you can’t do in a lifetime. And that’s when I just took a massive step back and I just said, okay, I just surrender it all. Like, whatever, wherever you want me to go and whatever you want me to do, I’m in the game to change lives. And it was crazy how, when my heart shifted, that’s when the game changed. 

And I became the youngest female senior director in the company, youngest female executive director in the company spoke in front of like over 10,000 people. And that’s when my career really started to ignite. I started doing keynote leadership talks throughout the U.S. and there was one keynote leadership talk that I was right after the event. One of my business partners, uh, she was walking on the boardwalk with me afterwards and she said, you know, stef you’ve helped me so much financially, but the woman that I become on the way to the goal is priceless.

And I think you need to teach that on a larger scale to women. And that’s when lady boss empire was born. I thought, you know, this is bigger than this inc. 500 company. I love this inc. 500 company. I’m still with them today. I still maintain the accounts and I’m still growing with them, but I have a lot of leadership in place. And so that was that moment where I’m like, this is what I’m destined to do. And it was just such a divine appointment of when you just are in alignment. You don’t quite know how you’re going to get there, but you keep taking the next best step. All bets are off.

Leah Gervais: What an amazing story. So where are you, I guess, were you doing sales on behalf of the company? Because what, when did it shift from like you being part of a company to your own company or was it always your own company?

Stefanie Peters: Good, good question. So I partnered with that inc 500 company at the age of 18 and then six years in, I started Lady Boss Empire. And so I still maintain those accounts with that company. And then lady boss empire is what I started. And then just a little side note. I now love teaching women how to create multiple streams of residual income, just in case one dries up. You’ve got a couple of others to choose from and dig your well before you’re thirsty. And that’s one of the principles that I teach a lot of the women that I work with. And so like even a couple of years into working with that inc 500 company I dove into real estate investing and that’s my second strongest stream of income to date. So just, just to clarify.

Leah Gervais: Okay. Okay. So was there any risk involved when you kind of went out on your own and created that? Like, did you have a lot of financial stability working with that company?

Stefanie Peters: Yeah. So with that company that has been a rock, like I have never dipped below a certain amount of income, so it really did build that base because, because there’s a 97% monthly reorder rate with that company that has always an awesome base, but it was nerve wracking when I decided that that wasn’t going to be my end all be all. And I wasn’t going to be going all into that thing. 

And I was like, okay, I am going all into lady boss empire and really did take a risk. Like there was even a lot of kickback with the inc 500 company for a period of time because of some of the stipulations and things. And it was internally like tearing me up inside because I’m like, I have this bigger vision of what I want to do, but I’m feeling like I’m being held back with the legal team. So it was definitely a rough road, but now we’ve come to an awesome meeting of minds. And now they’ve said, Hey, this is what you can do. This is what you can do. And so now they’re very separate, but they work very synergistically if that makes sense. So yeah, it was, it was, uh, a trip.

Leah Gervais: Sure. And so, and I’m sure you work with women that are in similar situations where they’re at a nine to five job or they’re working as a contractor with the company. I’m not exactly sure the nature of what you are doing, but how do you help them decide whether or not it’s right for them to go out on their own?

Stefanie Peters: You know, every person is so different. I don’t think a full time entrepreneurial venture is right for every person. I truly believe that you have to figure out in your heart, like what makes the most sense for you? I’m actually coming out with another book called the boss, like blitz and, um, one of the pages on there, it’s going to be an awesome visual of like your wealth pie or your like your wealth foundation and basically what it is. It’s talking about these multiple streams of income. And do you ultimately want to be working with that company or does that not align with your vision? 

I think you really have to kind of take inventory on your energy when you’re with that company. Do you love it? Is it something that sets your soul on fire or is it something that’s just going to pay the bills for the period of time until you can get that side hustle completely going and then you can love it and leave that other thing. So you really have to ask yourself those internal questions.

Leah Gervais: Right. And get clear on your unique vision. Love it. So, uh, tell me a little bit about the evolution of lady boss empire. What did you start selling in the beginning and where are you guys kind of at now?

Stefanie Peters: Yeah, so I actually started with just, uh, workshops, like goals, dreams, and attitude, workshops, vision board, get togethers, and really bridging the gap between, you know, where people were and then helping them to put together a game plan. But then so many women are like one of my most popular workshops that people in different companies will hire me to do is an if I fired my fear workshop. And so as, as I was doing those different workshops, so many people came to me and were like, we want you in our pocket. Like, we want you to be doing a podcast, or we want you to write a book. We want more like resources from you. And so I remember thinking, Oh my gosh, should I, am I meant to be an author? I, that was definitely a self limiting belief for a period of time.

I’m like, I almost failed English in high school. Like I did not do well, but I remember going to an empowerment event with one of my mentees that I volunteer for, um, Minnesota adult and teen challenge, which is a faith based drug rehabilitation center. And so mentoring, um, those ladies in that program, I asked one of the gals to come with me to an empowerment event and the gal on the stage, she asked the question, if I fired my fear, I would, you had to fill in the blank and what are you going to do within 24 hours? And who’s that person that’s going to keep you accountable to your goals. And so I just put the spotlight on my mentee and I’m like, I don’t want her to ask. So let’s just really highlight what she wants to do. So she called me and so then she said, okay, well, what do you want to do?

And I’m like, Oh man. And I knew inside my soul, I was supposed to, I I’ve been called to be an author and write books and give people different resources. So I kind of sheepishly said, I’d write a book. Like I was not confident in it at all. And, and she said, Oh my gosh, you’ll be an amazing author. I bet you’ll be a best-selling author. And like, she had way more confidence in it than I did at that time. Uh, I just was like, well, you know, we’ll see what happens. And so I pitched a publisher the next day and they said a thousand percent, we love the vision let’s get after it. And so it, like, it was really crazy how, when you just step into that, even though that you’re not sure, but you’re feeling called to it, like the stars aligned. And I had bet I had pitched some other people before that. And they said, no, it’s not a great concept. I don’t, I don’t like the vision of it, whatever and been rejected by a number of people. And so even if that first publisher that I pitched after that whole exercise would have happened, I would have kept going because of the fact that it doesn’t matter. Like if you have that vision, you keep going, no matter what.

Leah Gervais: Right, right. It, and so where did real estate start to fit into the equation? When did you, because it sounds like you have this very holistic approach for women’s empowerment, you know, and that, you’re really curious about how you can help people with as much of that as possible. So when did you start including this?

Stefanie Peters: Yeah, when I started with that inc 500 company, I started to make some pretty decent money early on in the game. And so I’m thinking I live a pretty basic lifestyle. I don’t need like a lot of high-end things and I’ve always been that person that I am always asking the question, what’s the best return on investment?

So when the bubble burst back in ‘08 and I’ve always been intrigued in real estate, I’m like this, it would be an awesome time to dial in. So I got my first investment property at the age of 21 or 22. And then, um, I got a renter there that cash flowed from day one. Um, I paid it off. Then I bought it, I bought another one and I bought another one and I bought another one. And it’s soon, like it didn’t happen overnight. Um, I even burned two mortgages or paid them off this year because I sold one of my businesses.

And so I just, my dad has been an awesome mentor. He is always been preaching multiple streams of income and digging your well before you’re thirsty. And because the average millionaire has seven streams of income. So he was the one that really pushed me towards that. And I’m glad that he did. And so as that kept building on itself month after month, I’m like, you know what, why don’t more women do this. I started asking women. And it’s just because they don’t know, it’s not that they, the, the biggest gap that I’ve found for women that don’t take flight on their dreams. It’s not laziness.

It is procrastination. I don’t know how to do it. Fear of failure, all of those things. And so I wanted to create that base and that platform. So call it real estate, call it course creation, call it, writing a book, call it, starting your own business, whatever that thing is that you want to do, go do that. And that’s where I want to build that base. I’m even launching a mastermind in January of an intimate group of women that if that woman has always said, I want to write that book. I want to start investing in real estate. Well, let me break down the game plan for you and put together the pieces for you. And if I can’t be that like go-to girl for you, let me connect you with the right person that can help you expedite your goals and dreams. Right.

Leah Gervais: Uh, so-so inspiring. So at this point, you do still do your workshops and deemed do them. COVID aside. Do you do them more in person? Yeah.

Stefanie Peters: Or virtual? Well, I used to do them more in person, even in COVID. It’s been interesting. Like there still been people that have said, Hey, we want to fly you up here. We want to fly you out here. And so I’m like game on. I’m good with it. So we’ve still been able to do some of those different workshops, but we all are starting to transition different things online. Like even I used to be really big vision board, get togethers. 

Now come in December, we’re going to be doing a vision board, get together online. So primarily what lady boss is now is we do workshops. Um, I have an online course, I’m launching a mastermind in January. And, um, and then I have two different books and other one’s going to be coming out, um, come January or February of next year. So those are like the go-to resources. And then on the backend of even my course, I have a lot of great resources for, if someone says, Hey, I want to start my own real estate business. Or I want to write a book. I want to put out a course or whatever those things are that they want to create those multiple streams. Then I partner with women on the backend to help them to get them to where they want to go.

Leah Gervais: Wow. Wow. Amazing. Uh, it sounds like a true empire. You truly have done it. And so do you have a team? 

Stefanie Peters: So I have an executive assistant. I have a couple of BAS and then I hire different people on four different projects that I’m working on. So I have a lot of people that all kind of bring on and off depending on what type of season that I’m at, but I do. Yeah. I love my executive assistant and I love my VA’s. They are amazing.

Leah Gervais: Is your executive assistant both personal and professional or mostly herbicide?

Stefanie Peters: Yes. Primarily business, but really does help with some other things. And, and I’m always such a big advocate for a lot of women even early on in the game, automate, delegate, eliminate, because if you get so bogged down by cleaning your house, doing your taxes, bringing the kids to school, shopping, you can eliminate all of those things. And that’s one of the other reasons of putting together this boss like blitz is because I really want women to strip out the things that aren’t bringing them joy or bringing them income.

Leah Gervais: Right. Exactly. Just as who else can do this, who else can do this? Who else can do this is, it’s an, it’s a good phrase to have. Wow. Well, thank you so much for sharing all of this and congratulations on your success. I think that there’s so much to be said for, I mean, there’s so much reset for a lot of what you do. 

First of all, I think seeing, well holistically is so important for especially entrepreneurs. Um, I think that I know for me and for many of my clients and a lot of people who are, who do have their own business, it’s, it can be a little bit overwhelming to know when to start sort of like diversifying your income. I do think there’s something to be said, I did this and I would not change it personally for mostly putting my money into my business when I started.

But then you have to have that moment where it’s like, well, I don’t want everything to be coming from my one business. Where else can I put my money? Where else can I have this grow for me? And I think it’s great that you are so transparent about that. And it sounds like you really help people start no matter where they’re at. It’s not like you need to have a million dollars to buy, to start buying real estate or anything like that at all. It’s really, you can be really in any situation in life and start having your wealth work for you through your approach.

Stefanie Peters: Absolutely. Absolutely. And I love what you’ve touched on is building that base, building that foundation of where your primary income comes from and super, super stable. And you start to build, you’ve started to build a team around it and it’s going to manage itself and grow itself as you’ve put the right teammates in place, then you can start expanding, but don’t expand too quickly because then you’re going to feel like you’re, um, all over the board. So you really want to build that base first and then slowly but surely add those other things. It doesn’t happen overnight. I’ve always said you marry the process, divorce, the results, the results will tell them, but you’ve got to follow that process.

Leah Gervais: I love that. And, um, I guess one last question on this topic, do you, have you ever dealt with, or do you have any clients or people you work with that deal with, um, any concern about being a female breadwinner or, you know, how do you kind of approach that topic? Because it seems like you’re dealing with, uh, women who are making their own wealth. And I know that we should be at the day in age where that is the norm, but for some are not. And how, what’s your advice on that?

Well, I think as it’s the law of the lid, like John Maxwell talks about you, you can only go as high as your lid will let you. So if you feel like you can only make so much money, that’s exactly how much you’re going to be. Like, you’ve got to get your mindset to those higher levels. And so the more that you can expand yourself personally, keep growing as a leader and exposing yourself to other women that are playing a bigger game than you. And that’s the norm for you versus the out of the norm. 

That’s when I feel like you can break, a lot of barriers is when you start, you’re like, Oh my gosh, if this person is doing that and that person is doing that and that female is crushing it, then by all means like, it makes you want to step up your own game. So I think your inner circle is so extremely important of who you’re exposing yourself to. And are you in the fixed mindset or are you in the amendments mindset?

Leah Gervais: Totally. I love that advice, repeatedly, I mean, without fail, my primary business model is group coaching programs that I do. I start, I have like a starter one for new business owners all the way up to, you know, a multiple six-figure mastermind and time and time again, we are told that one of the best parts of it, if not the best part of it is the community. And I think it’s something you don’t, you don’t know how valuable it is until you know how valuable it is. You don’t know what you don’t know. And until you’re in that different community and you’re realizing how right. Everything you’re saying is you really, you really do see your life transforming.

Stefanie Peters: Like I will tell you, I joined a mastermind where I’m the guy who was recruiting for it. He said, pay for friends. It makes a difference. First. I’m like, that’s an interesting sales pitch.

Leah Gervais: It’s so incredibly true. It really doesn’t matter.

Stefanie Peters: It does. It does because if all your friends are making seven figures, you know, or let’s say your five closest friends are making seven figures, you’re going to be the sixth. If you broke friends, you’re going to be the sixth. Like you have to think about that. It’s imperative to living out your divine calling and your destiny.

Leah Gervais: Oh my God. So beautifully put, oh, well, thank you so much for sharing this all very, very inspiring. Congratulations on your success. I think more than anything, congratulations, I’m following your gut. I know from personal experience, it is, it’s the hardest part a lot of the time, but it’s always most rewarding. I have a few lightning round questions for you. Are you ready? What is your go-to when you’re just having a bad day, you know what, you have done all the mindset work in the world, but it’s just not happening.

Stefanie Peters: I go out and I spend time at the beach. Like I know that if I’m having like the worst day, I’m like, okay, you know what? Work can wait. I am, I’m running on the beach. Like, I’m going to get rid of it for me, exercise the best stress reducer known to man. And I come back and I’m like, you know what? It’s okay.

Leah Gervais: It’s going to be okay. Oh, totally. I have to say, I mean, I know for everyone listening, we both are in the Miami area. And I recently moved here from New York city and I have always been the number one fan of the four seasons. And I’ve always said, I love, I love that about New York. I love watching all the seasons and I do, but here we are mid November and I’m like, I don’t really miss fall as much as I thought I would.

Stefanie Peters: So I grew up born and raised in Minnesota and on my 30th birthday, the weatherman came on and he said, congratulations, Minnesota. You’ve broken the record for number of days below zero. And that was the day I decided I am getting the hell out of here and I’m going to Florida. And I have not looked back like, even for my brother’s wedding, I went back to Minnesota. And when I saw all the leaves and everything, like I even took an Instagram video and I’m like, Oh my gosh, I miss this so much. And then literally within 72 hours, it was like 60 degrees. When I got there, it was cool and crisp, then on my flight back, I bought a caribou and it was 32 degrees and October. And I’m like, this is why I don’t live here.

Leah Gervais: Totally. That makes a ton of sense. Yeah. I mean, I dunno, maybe I’ll miss some of the, some of the holiday season or whatever, but so far I’m like, this is actually spectacular. It is so nice. Just knowing whenever you need to get out of your apartment, especially right now in COVID, we’re pretty conservative. We don’t go outside when we don’t need too much and things like that, but we can, you know, when you just need to step away, you have, so I’ve loved that advice or that go-to, um, what is a business building book or podcast that has really helped you that you recommend?

Stefanie Peters: Oh, for the love of money by Chris Harder has been my go to it has given me so many good money mindset, principles to blow the doors of what I think is possible.

Leah Gervais: Hmm. Love that. Great advice. Uh, do you have a proudest business moment thus far?

Stefanie Peters: I think probably the biggest one. It was actually at the mall of America in Minnesota. And I had been dreaming about what my book launch was going to look like to make an impact for women’s lives. And I will tell you, there were so many crazy stories of how it was. It literally was like falling apart on so many levels. And I remember standing up there the day of the event, like literally the coordinator, she just ducked out like minutes before it was such a hot mess up into the moment. And then I just remember just thinking, just breathe, just embrace. Like you worked so hard. Your team has worked so hard for this moment to make a huge difference in women’s lives. 

And I remember standing in front of the audience and, um, it was a sold out event and just seeing how many women after I shared my story, like how many tears, like people crying. And I, after that event and signing books, so many women said, Oh my gosh, this, those principles are changing my life. Like I’ve been listening to you. I’ve been watching, you know, different leaders on the team within lady boss empire. And now I know that my dreams are possible.

Stefanie Peters: Oh, it was just, it was that moment where you’re like, no matter what, how hard this gets, it’s completely worth it. Like even one woman came up to me and she said staff, I was in deep depression. But when I listened to your podcast, it just ignited what was possible for me that secret to unstuck was the name of the episode. And my life will never be the same.

Leah Gervais: Incredible, it does. It makes it all worth it. I love it. And what I mean, girl’s dream isn’t to have a book sold out book launch at the mall of America that is incredible on its own. Like the rest of the story made it better. Amazing. Well, thank you so much. Last question is where can people find out more about you?

Stefanie Peters: Yes. The bosslife.tv. www.thebosslifetv is a great place to start. And I actually have an opt-in on there that you can, if you’re like at a loss, a lot of women will say, well, how do I even start setting goals? Like how do I even put my purpose together? I don’t even know. Um, there’s actually a download on there that you can get that can help you to just really put that in place. And then also reach out to me on Instagram. I’d love to be a resource for any of your listeners. It’s @ladyboss_SP and, and also a side note. Leah, I just want to say, you know, you have just been such a force for good of just what you’re doing in your business, what you’re doing in your life for so many women. So thank you for just really stepping out in faith. It’s not easy, but just like powering forward, no matter what.

Leah Gervais: That is so sweet. Thank you so much for sharing that. And thank you, Sharon, for sharing all of this, because it was very inspiring. And I can tell that it’s still just the beginning for you. So I’m excited to see everything that you do next, but we really appreciate it. And we’ll talk to you soon.

Stefanie Peters: Oh, thanks Leah.

Leah Gervais: Thanks Stefanie!

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