Transcript of Episode

Leah Gervais:

Hey visionaries, welcome back to the Your Biggest Vision show, I’m your host, Leah Gervais and I’m very excited to share Susie Moore with you today. Susie is actually just on the other side of the park from me here in New York City and she is just one of the most bubbly, friendly and inspiring people I’ve had the pleasure of meeting, so I’m very excited for her to be here. Thank you, Susie.

Susie Moore:

My Gosh, Leah. I’m so excited for this. Thank you so much for having me on your show.

Leah Gervais:

Oh, thank you. Well, let me just introduce you real quick for those of you who don’t know you. So, Susie is a New York base life and confidence coach. She left her career as a sales director of a Fortune 500 company to pursue her side hustle years ago- woman after my own heart and she’s helped so many others make the same leap. She has been featured on the Today Show, Forbes, Business Insider, Marie Claire, Time, Ink, Family Circle and many more. She’s an editor at large at Thrive Global and the creator of Five Minutes to Payments. She’s a publicity expert and has helped me get published as well. So thanks again Susie.

Susie Moore:

Oh thank you Leah, you make me sound quite good.

Leah Gervais:

That’s the resume you have. Well, you deserve it all.

Susie Moore:

Oh, well good. I think it’s a great idea to have a rich life, like cram it all in. Right? Why not? There’s a lot of things that we can all be doing as humans, so I don’t like to stick to just one thing.

Leah Gervais:

Oh, I love that. I love that and that’s a perfect way to start the show. So my show, The Your Biggest Vision Show, is all about following your vision and sometimes people knew what their vision was, sometimes people don’t, but they figured out what their vision was not. I know quite a bit about your story, but you’re not from New York, you also didn’t set out to be an entrepreneur at first. What did you envision your life to be like when you were younger or in college?

Susie Moore: Oh, that’s such a good question, and by the way, I didn’t go to college, how about that? There are lots of ways that you can be successful and you don’t have to take a traditional path. So, I just always thought when I was younger, I wanted to live in a big city, be really happy, have everything that I wanted and it always is kind of my goal, I mean, there are lots of ways that you can achieve this, but to put it very simply, I just always wanted to encourage other people. And to really help them be happier and help them understand the power that they have within them. So essentially, I mean, I can simplify it that way, but it shows up in lots of different ways to businesswise. So encouraging people to start side hustles, encouraging them to, of course, get out there and be confidently visible in the media, encouraging them in their own startups to be more strategic so that they can think bigger. But essentially I just always wanted to be an encourager and that’s kind of what I think I do best. There’s an old quote that I love, which I repeat to people who always say what should I do, or you know, what’s the best use of me? And the quote is something like, don’t ask, what the best use of you is or what you should be doing with your life, ask what makes you come alive because the world needs more people who come alive.

Leah Gervais: Beautiful. Yeah. So you’re from the UK?

Susie Moore: Yes, I’m from the UK and I lived in Australia for a few years where I met my husband and yes, we live in New York now. Not far from you, as you said.

Leah Gervais: Okay. So you did the city thing twice?

Susie Moore: Yes! Yes, yes, yes and I think, I mean that’s another thing. Living in different places and moving around, there is so much value to it if you’re up for it and the world I’ve realized is very friendly place.

Leah Gervais: Right, right. Well I want to hear more about Sydney, but, you know I’m biased to New York. So when you say that you felt really called to be an encourager and to make people feel alive and light up and make the most of their life and we know how this has manifested in your career in terms of being a life coach, a competent coach, helping people get seen. I mean you do so much to lift other people up. What kind of work do you feel like you needed to do on yourself first before you could really serve others? Or did you or do you?

Susie Moore: Oh yeah. Well that’s such a good question. Yes. Actually, this funny thing happened recently where I did a talk not so long ago. And I met a friend of mine recently afterwords at a local wine bar. And we sat down, she was like, oh my gosh, how did your talk go? And I said, you know what, I think it went really well. And she was like, oh, that’s so good. And we cheersed, we had a great girls day and had tapas. And then a couple of days later, she texts me and she said, you know, when you said that you think that you did well after that talk, it made me realize how much I never give myself any credit. You know? She’s like, well you just said, oh yeah, I think I did really well and I think I did a good job. She was like, I would never say that. Most people never say that. And the secret is if you want to be an encourager, you have to encourage yourself first. I mean, I’m not in the habit of re-tweeting Kanye West, but there was one tweet that he said that I really liked it. He said everyone should be their own biggest fan. And I think, this is your life, your one oppurtunity. You have to like what you’ve got, you’ve got to like who you are and I think that’s really a daily thing. It’s not, you know, you read a couple of self help books and you remember some of the principles, I’m always reading self help books, I’m always listening to podcasts. I’m always listening to Abraham Hicks on Youtube around the house. So I’m indoctrinating myself constantly with self improvement material and stuff that uplifts me so that I can always be really like raring to go and do the best job that I can do whenever I show up in the UN.

Leah Gervais: So you know, being an entrepreneur, I think that whether you go into it thinking that you’re going to dive into personal development or not, it’s somewhat inevitable because you do have to believe in yourself pretty much to put yourself first. I also know that you have a history with corporations and big companies and I think you still do work with people that are in corporate America.

Susie Moore: Yes.

Leah Gervais: So if someone is completely new to personal development, they might not even have the self awareness to understand that their lack of confidence is killing their happiness or killing their dreams. Where do they even begin? Where do you tell them to even start?

Susie Moore:  Well, if somebody is even looking for a place to start already, congratulations, you’re in a great place. If you’re open, if you’re willing, if you’re aware that you’re allowed to be happier, if you’re aware that you’re allowed to have a lot more self confidence, far higher self esteem, to put yourself in a position where you’re allowed to attract more, welcome more,  really assert yourself more… already you’ve done half the work, right? Just being willing and being open to improving yourself and improving your mental state is really a huge part of it. A lot of people never get there, they never think about it. Or they just reject it or think the world’s unfair, everything’s fixed. This is just my life, you know? And that’s simply not true.

But already, if you’re open, if you have a curiosity, there is so much out there for you. My Gosh, it is a candy store. I even joke, I wrote a piece once about, you know, the five lessons I learned from reading 500 self help books. And I’m like the worst question anyone could ask me is you know, ‘what’s your favorite book’, because there’s so much, but I think in terms of getting started on a basic level, I think Louise Hay is great. I think reading anything by Wayne Dyer is certainly great. Byron Katie is fantastic. I mean it depends if you care more about like business success and maybe kind of feeling a bit more grounded and if you like maybe are willing to meditate and be a bit more aligned with your thoughts. There are so many resources and you can listen to audio books and of course you can read, which is my preferred medium. You can also just watch youtube videos and play around and test around different types of authors and speakers and see who you like and then just go deeper with whoever speaks to you.

Leah Gervais: I absolutely love how you said it’s a candy store out there. It just really brings it to life. It is so delicious how things can be, if you like them.

Susie Moore: And it’s a free candy store in so many spaces. And if you’re lucky enough to live in a city or it’s even worth traveling, you can go through events, often they’re very inexpensive, you know, and you can meet other people like you because sometimes if you put like a group of friends that maybe feel a bit like they’re not as aspirational as you’d like them to be and maybe your parents don’t really get you, maybe your family doesn’t really understand you, there also can be sort of friends waiting for you out there too. So it’s really great to know that f you’re, if you’re willing and open to this kind of world of self help, then oh my gosh, you’re in the right place, at the right time.

Leah Gervais: That’s a great way to put it. Just the first win is that you even care.

Susie Moore: Yes, exactly. Exactly. And if there is any kind of question or call that maybe there’s something else and maybe there’s deeper meaning. Maybe there’s another way I could feel. Absolutely there is, and your life has been to be joyful. It’s meant to be abundant. It’s meant to be full of awesome things. And it’s meant to go your way too. It’s not meant to be just something to be enjoyed, you know? It’s meant to be like really enjoyed. So that’s a big part of it too. That’s also why I put fun as a big priority in my life.

Leah Gervais: Oh good. Well we can all use more of that. When you were working, let’s go back a little bit to when you were in the corporate world and you were in a fortune 500 company. So when you started in New York, you were working nine to five, right?

Susie Moore: Yes. I was working in Sydney. I had a job there in advertising and then I came to New York and I didn’t know anybody, any companies, I had no American experience. But I needed to find a job in digital advertising. So I just like hustled like crazy of course, spoke only to my strengths, really amped up everything that I did have, was very enthusiastic, very, you know, self assured with all of this self help that I do. I’ll say it was relatively straight forward.

Leah Gervais: Yeah. Right. Yeah. So, how long did you work here in New York at your nine to five before you left?

Susie Moore: For five years. So I had two different jobs while I was here. So, yeah, five years.

Leah Gervais: In that process did you start your side hustle?

Susie Moore: I was side hustling for 18 months before I went all in on it full time.

Leah Gervais: Okay. Wow. So not that long. You really ramped it up.

Susie Moore: Yeah, well this is kind of one of the reasons I discovered media as well as because I knew that nothing could get me the exposure and the access to traffic and people and just eyeballs as much as a big article on a huge website. So that’s why I started doing the media thing really early. I used to do it when I was at work and pretended I was taking notes in meetings, you know, they’d be like, oh, you’re so into this meeting, and I was like, yes, I am- type, type, type. I was doing all this guess posting, blogging, et cetera, because I knew it would really kind of get me ahead and I still continue to do it because it’s still works for me so well.

Leah Gervais: Wow. So did you know pretty much right when you started that you were setting out to do this so that you could leave your job?

Susie Moore: Yes, yes. I think that if you have that feeling right, you know, and more than even just weren’t it dying to be an entrepreneur, I guess it’s very hard for me as a rebel positionality type to do really anything for anybody else, you know, under their instruction. Also, I frankly felt in some cases like more competent than some of my managers sometimes. I didn’t think their decisions were good. I didn’t think they have much emotional intelligence. I didn’t always agree with their strategies, but you know, based on a hierarchy, that’s just how it was and I knew that if I wanted it to be any different, it would have to be my way, my business. So then the buck would have to stop over here with yours truly. Right.

Leah Gervais: Still going strong.

Susie Moore: That’s, that’s right. Yeah. I think I knew like this isn’t for me and by the way, if you feel that way, it’s because we’re meant to do it. In every desire is the seed of what is meant to be, right? So take your instinct seriously. I really can’t convey that enough. Your instincts, your intuition, just your general feeling, especially if it’s consistent over time. Trust it and follow it because all you need is that trust yourself, a bit of faith and it doesn’t unfold for you. No one has all the answers but we’re all just making it up, doing our best, right? But we’re making a lot of mistakes and just learning as we go. But that’s just how it is. I mean that’s just part of the road part of the fun. But the success doesn’t fall to the next steps. You just continue to present themselves to you.

Leah Gervais: What advice do you have for people that feel like they want to get better at listening to their gut or they want to hear their instincts louder? Maybe they haven’t really dared to do that yet.

Susie Moore:  Yeah, I think this is a common thing where people think, I don’t really know. They take, you know, a feeling of fear as a feeling of intuition and it’s not the same thing. You know, like for example, just say you are absolutely meant to be a public speaker, right? To say that that’s a natural skill that you have, but it really scares you. Some people think, you know, that fear is my tuition. It’s not. So it needs *unable to transcribe*. And the question I ask is when you consider it right, so you visualize the thing that scares you, right? So whatever the question is, if you want to tap into your guidance, your inner guidance and by the way no one’s inner guidance will understand you, right? So you can’t take advice on this. It’s actually interesting how, the most successful people I know don’t take any advice really. They listen- even if they have advisors, but everything we do is very, very instinctive and deeply personal. So you can say whatever the question is that comes up, should I do that presentation or say put my hands up to the presentation? You should visualize it. Visualize it going well, right? Set yourself up for a great visualization, it just takes a few seconds and then visualize not doing it and just kind of staying where you are and not making any progress and notice what your body does because your body will physically relax when the right thing for you comes into your mind. So yeah. What has it feels like relief, like relaxing, like freedom, like peace, even if it is a little scary. Good, right?

But yeah, whatever kind of feels like expansive, big, like yes, you know, I can actually relax. I can actually, Ooh, this feels like I’m comfortable with that. Then that’s the right thing for you. I think that we often get so distracted, copying our friends or copying, you know, whatever somebody else is doing or you know, listening to our boss or listening to our mom, like they don’t know you, right? They don’t really know the real you like no one knows what’s inside of you. So the most important thing is just to keep listening, keep listening, keep visualizing, keep asking yourself, what do I really want? And you can journal about it. Another good way to know if something is sincerely what you want is how long have you been thinking about it? So if I’m like, hey,  you want to start a side hustle and someone’s like yeah, yeah I really want to start one. And I’m like, oh how long have you thinking about it? And they’re like, oh, two days, because I just watched a movie and I want to be like the girl in the movie. Right. That’s one thing. Versus, you know, for five years I’ve been thinking about one. So yeah, the time and often even fully your whole life, what is it you want to do?

Leah Gervais: I love this advice because, you know, I think that a lot of times someone might be listening to this and you know, your advice on how your instincts are real, those desires you have are real. It’s so important to listen to them. You know, to anyone out there, not everyone does want to have a side hustle. Not everyone does want to be an entrepreneur. So if you have that little inkling, you have to really honor it. I think that you sharing that, you talked to people all the time who don’t want it and that’s fine. That’s actually a good thing. It’s what makes us all different.

Susie Moore: Absolutely, and if you have an inkling you’re going to need to hire people one day, right? And you’re going to want less people to want to be entrepreneurs. So like there is a perfect balance out. I saw my sister in the UK recently and she was like, I have no idea how you run a business. It looks impossible. I would hate it. She’s like I’m glad someone’s doing it, but it’s not me and I don’t know where you get it from. Right? So it’s like there are so many different people out there and no one knows, truly, no one knows what’s inside of you. It’s your obligation to let it out. And show us what you’ve got.

Leah Gervais: Right. Right. Awesome. Okay, so I want to go a little bit further back to when you’re quitting your job, building your side hustle. Was there a moment that you had where you’re just like, okay, I’m all in. Do you remember maybe a day at work or even a day of meditation? Was there some sort of snap where you’re like, I’m pivoting my life? Or did it just sort of, you know, I know everything’s sort of gradually what happens over time, but can you tell us about something that really just lit you up?

Susie Moore: Yes. This is how the universe works in your favor. So I left my job in December. I decided to stay until March because this is when you get your quarterly bonuses, right? If you work in sales. So I was like, I want to wait till my March bonus and then I’m going to leave. Right? I’m going to take that check and run. But before December, I was in Australia for my best friend’s wedding and we were chatting and she was like, oh my God, it’s been such a good year for you. I don’t know why you just don’t quit now. And I was like, no, I’ve got to wait for that March check. Because you know, I was a little bit scared and my salary was big, Leah. I had a really sweet set up too. So I’ve written about it as well, but of course it was just my own fear. And then I got back from Australia and I have a meeting with my account manager and he said, look, I really didn’t want to disappoint you and your first day back, but a deal that I had that was going to pay my March commission check. He’s like, it fell through because of this product feature, I won’t get into the boring bits. So, my commission check, you know what I thought it would’ve been, it would’ve been like less than a third. And I was like, I’m quitting. I resigned that week. I said to my husband, I think I’m going to resign tomorrow. He was like, do it. So I mean look, what I always thought to myself, Leah, was what’s the worst that can happen? I will end up in another job just like this one and living my worst scenario. I’ll just getting another job. Like often risk isn’t even as bad as we make it out to be in our own minds.

Leah Gervais: Right. That’s such a good point. I thought that too when I was leaving my nine to five job and I tell people all the time, they’re so afraid and it’s like, okay, so the worst case scenario is you end up exactly where you are now. You come back to your nine to five job, like, you know, you really don’t have that much to lose. What did you feel in that moment? Were you kind of like, you win universe, I’ll leave.

Susie Moore: I always laugh to myself, all the signs were leading to it, but it’s like I didn’t have the courage yet, but I always think that the universe will do for you, what you will do for yourself.Right. It’s like I tell you, I didn’t know anyone. I know when people lose their jobs, including my husband, he lost his job banking once, my sister lost her job in media. It happens, but I’ve never really known someone to lose a job and then not have a positive outcome. Yeah, exactly. So then someone says like, oh, it’s fine. I’m like, congratulations, what’s next?

Leah Gervais: Especially now. Sometimes I’ll get emails and people will be like, oh, I wanted to sign up for one of your programs, but I recently got let go and I’m like, this is great and I’m  sure their like, no, I’m really scared but I don’t see it like that anymore.

Susie Moore: Well, what is normal to be scared. It means that you care and it means you’re responsible and those are good qualities to bring into business, you know, so don’t worry. There’s always lots of jobs. There’s always more money, I mean, the way that I think about it is in my moods of fear, we forget everything that we are, right? We forget everything good about ourselves. We’re like I don’t know anything, I’m brand new and it’s like come on, like even if you want to have a side hustle, even if you’ve only worked one or two years in your life, you’ve got a lot of skills. Yes. And you’re good at things, right? You are good at things. So you have to just keep remembering that and you just really have to be on your own side with it because even if you have like the best coach, the best spouse, the coolest friend, like only you can really keep going. So you have to always just be working on your own mindset. Because I think business problems are just personal problems that manifests in business, you know, everything else, it just always comes back to you and your willingness and your determination to keep going.

Leah Gervais: That’s the whole reason I started this show is because we all have visions for our life. It’s fun to dream with people. It’s fun to talk about things, but no one will fight for your vision except you. No one. Not your spouse, not your parents, not your kids. Not the people you love most. You have to fight for yourself.

Susie Moore: Yes, exactly. Look, when me and my husband went to therapy a few years ago, because we were having conversations around money and around work and I was side hustling and he thought it was really cool and he thought it was kind of fun and I was like, no, no, no, this is like really serious. I’m going to be all in on this soon. And the therapist said to us, he’s like, yeah, like Susie doesn’t have a fantasy about it. She’s making it real and I don’t think he even understood how real it was to me. He thought it was cool and fun, especially cause he saw like I was building my business through media and I got to interview celebrities and stuff like that, but I was like, oh no, no, no honey, like I’m resigning. There’s going to be a day, right? So, people can support you, but it all comes down to just you and your ability to stay at it.

Leah Gervais: Yes. Amazing. I want to ask you a bit more about your vision, but I actually want to pivot really quick to this point. So I know one of the things that you’re featured in for the media relatively often for is being a female breadwinner, more than your husband. My audience is not just women, but I am and I think a lot of them are. What advice do you have for women that might be coming up in that situation that never intended to? Was it a situation you thought you’d ever be in? Was it hard for you? What learnings can you share about that?

Susie Moore: Oh yes. I love talking about this. First of all, if you’re a female breadwinner, awesome. Well done, that’s really, really cool. Why would anyone be unhappy at all about anybody earning money? Everything’s very uncertain, no one has a secure job. You know, most people are living in debt of some kind and no dollar that’s brought into your home should be anything but congratulated and celebrated. So if it just happens to be you, great. I don’t think it really has to be a huge deal, like who’s earning what. Hopefully you have a supportive spouse who doesn’t feel emasculated. And sadly, I think that that is still true in a lot of cases. I really increasingly don’t know why. Because you know, the workload at home is different now. Gender roles are completely shifting. And even just the female breadwinner is increasing so much even just year after year. I would just say, be very proud of yourself. You don’t have to apologize for anything and you also don’t have to brag about anything. It can just be the reality in your home and if you need to have a conversation around money or if there are real issues around it, you probably like want to speak to someone about it. They probably would have something that can help you in your relationship. But money can be this wonderful thing that you celebrate or it can be this kind of power play that’s used in relationships and you don’t want to do that. You love your spouse, you want to celebrate your wins, you want him to celebrate them too with you. And really it’s, it’s as big a deal as you make it. I always really liked earning more money. I never really expected to have a husband who earned more than me. I never really had a goal of that. And my husband, so he left his career and works with me full time, and look, he loves it, but he’s also very secure. He’s very secure and very just confidence. So, I’ve been lucky with him. But yeah, I think being a female breadwinner is very, very cool, you’re certainly not alone and you are to be congratulated.

Leah Gervais: That’s just a lovely way to put it. I think the point that you make, it seems so obvious. I am getting married, I’m not married, but in my eyes, marriage is you becoming one, which means your money is one.

Susie Moore: Exactly. I mean, historically speaking, marriage is an economic decision. Pulling together with resources, as a people have children to work on their farms, et cetera. So it’s like who matters where it’s coming from? What does it matter where it’s coming from? As long as it’s coming, enjoy it.

Leah Gervais: I know, right? Like, I mean think about how many people have marriage problems because there’s not enough money. If like the problem is that the women’s making too much, this is a good problem people.

Susie Moore: Exactly. Such a good problem. And I mean, all you want to do is find a really secure man who’s going to support you, because taking care of someone, it’s so much more than financial.

Leah Gervais: Yes. It’s so true. Well thank you for being such a role model, Susie. You’re paving it for women everywhere.

Susie Moore: Oh, thanks Leah. Gosh, I’m really enjoying this.

Leah Gervais: So I want pivot a little bit back to your vision and everything you fight for. And I know that I think so much of what you have shared really implies that you continue fighting for your vision every day. This has never done and you know what? It’s a real joy to realize it’s not a destination because that means you get to have fun on the journey people.

Susie Moore: Yes, exactly. And that’s actually the point really, isn’t it? I mean success is a moving target, right? So as soon as you achieve something, right, you’re like, okay, I want to get a book deal. Right? Okay. Get a book deal then what? There’s going to be a new goal. Right? So the journey never ends. It ends in the coffin, right? Essentially. Like when you’re being buried. That’s when your desires will end. So, you’re always going to be in the state of, you know, expectation like being ready for more. And that’s really cool. If you’re a high achiever, which most side hustlers are and visionaries are, we also typically tend to discount a lot of the wins that we have because we’re so focused on the next thing. So it’s important to you to almost keep a mental record, whatever makes sense for you. But to be like, oh, you know this vision of creating, I did it. And instead of just going, okay, onto the next, you can go, you know what, in the last, you know, six months, I did this, that I will just mention, I did this really great blog post. So to acknowledge everything that you do along the way, even if it doesn’t seem significant, it all adds up.

Leah Gervais: So how do you do it? How do you keep celebrating?

Susie Moore: Well I celebrate myself often actually. I’m always writing down things that are going well. There’s a tool that I love, which I took a lot, it actually it in the success principles by Jack Canfield, which is a great book. It’s called conducting a success *unable to transcribe*. So essentially it’s super simple. You break down your life into thirds? So just say your 30. The first 10 years, second 10 years, and third 10 years. And if you’re 60 your 20, 20, 20 and you write down your achievements, like your top three achievements from each third of your life, and then you end up with nine. So you have like nine achievements because often our ego will only really remember like the past couple of months and the mistakes that you’ve made. Right? So you have to remember, what’s gotten you to here today exactly where you are. This exact moment has been a lifetime of decisions, like a lifetime of wins, like a lifetime of things that you’ve had to overcome and do and learn and achieve. So I’m constantly reminding myself, I have my list, I work on new lists whenever something goes well. I always kind of give myself a pat on the back. I think it’s really important to do that and people never do it. Like people are always really surprised when I’m like, oh, I did a really good job with that, but I do it on purpose because I want them to hear it because I want them to do it.

Leah Gervais: Oh, that’s such good insight. You know, and it’s just such a good reminder that when you ignore your, your own self confidence or your own personal development, it’s not only robbing you of your own potential, but it also was taking away from your chance to lead others and to be an example to others. And you know what you’ve done, absolutely transformed your life, but look at what you’ve done for everyone else.

Susie Moore: So, I worked with a girl at my last job, and she kind of followed my path a little bit. She became a coach too. She actually just went all in full time on her writing, which is very exciting. I had a joke with her just a couple of months ago and her best friend came along who I also know, and her best friend has lost 20 pounds. She’s hired a coach. She’s asked for a raise because our mutual friend is doing so much personal development, that it’s having this effect on her best friend. Wow. So she’s not coaching her, she’s not her personal trainer, but she just observes it. So the best thing you can do is live the highest version of your life. That’s the most generous thing you can do. To be the most fabulous version of you, that is the most generous thing you can do because it’s not inspiring to hate yourself, to criticize yourself, to be like living this mediocre existence when you just know there’s more and pick up the people who inspire that are always doing pretty cool things, and they’re like, yeah, sorry. You know, I don’t want to take up too much space. Like no, they’re just doing them.

Leah Gervais: Right, right. Inspiration is the best way to get people to take action. It is not going to be touring them, giving them a handout or even fear based pressure. It’s by inspiration. So amazing.

Susie Moore: That’s right. Yes. And truly have fun with that. I think that Leah, if I could wave a wand and make a tiny impact with everyone it would be not to take things so seriously. We’re very serious. Right?

Leah Gervais: I know. Especially living in New York, people are bickering just listening to you right now.

Susie Moore:

Yes. It’s like all my gosh, guess what? Like, you know, most things aren’t life and death like and if you bring such a heaviness to every decision, every meeting, every conversation… Well, no. Often the best things are very spontaneous, the most creative among us are quite light and free like, so if we could just take ourselves a little less seriously and if we could have a bit more fun and just like lighten up a little bit. I think that’s also how we become just a lot more successful too.

Leah Gervais: I completely agree. Okay. Susie, you have been absolutely amazing. I have just a couple of few months Your Biggest Vision fire questions and just thank you, you have been a delight to listen to. What moment are you most proud of so far in pursuing your vision, or not moment, but thing, if you had to choose one?

Susie Moore: I’m proud of myself for being able to overcome disappointments very quickly.

I do it often. Now my bounce back rate is literally seconds. So I’m proud of the fact that I’ve been able to master that.

Leah Gervais: That’s a great one. What’s a daily practice you do to fight for your vision? Oh actually my practice, it isn’t a fight, but to let it in. Just allow it. Just I guess to be joyful and to lean into my joint and to let that guide me.

Leah Gervais: Great. What’s a book or podcast you love?

Susie Moore: Oh my gosh. Right now, I like to reread my favorite’s. I’m rereading Ask and It’s Given by Abraham Hicks.

Leah Gervais: Beautiful. One thing that we can look out for me next, personal or business. What’s exciting coming up?

Susie Moore: Ooh. I am now working on my next book and so that is coming out next year. So that is very exciting for me.

Leah Gervais: That is very exciting, and how can people find out more about you and follow you?

Susie Moore: Well, the best way is to just check out my free resources on my blog,https://susie-moore.com. Or if you’re looking to get media coverage and want a free workshop you can head to https://getrockstarpr.com/rockstar-2/.

Leah Gervais: Perfect. And both of those links will be in the show notes in case anyone’s listening to this and just wants to click over.

Susie Moore: Thank you, Leah.

Leah Gervais: Thank you so much, Susie. You are so inspiring and this was so full of wisdom and I just know you’re going to help so many people, so thank you for taking the time to do this with us.

Susie Moore: Yeah, I had a blast. Thank you Leah.

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