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Leah Gervais: Hey visionaries. Welcome back to the Your Biggest Vision show. I’m here with Chelsey Mollin today, and she is here to talk to us about her journey in Chinese medicine entrepreneurship. And to give us some pointers on how you can use principles from Chinese medicine to optimize your health, your hormones, and how those can affect your business. I personally have learned from Chelsey and she’s in my mastermind. So I can only imagine how much wisdom she’s going to bring to us today. You guys are really in for a tree. And so thank you so much for being here, Chelsey.

Chelsey Mollin: Thank you so much for having me. 

Leah Gervais: I’m excited. So Chelsey a, I’d love to start well first, before we go back, why don’t you tell us, um, a sentence or two about your business and what it is that you do right now?

Chelsey Mollin: Sure. So I practice traditional Chinese medicine and I am in private practice as an acupuncturist, and they also run an online women’s health consulting business, where I have a primary focus in hormonal and gut health. So my approach is really empowering. So really teaching women about their bodies and how not, how they can really take control and claim sovereignty over their health and heal their symptoms. So helping them cultivate the tools to overcome whatever it is that they’re suffering from while also teaching them how they can do that for themselves long-term.

Leah Gervais: Amazing. Such good work. So take us back a little bit. How, when, where did you grow up? What was your childhood like? And when along the way did you become interested in Chinese medicine?

Chelsey Mollin: Yeah, so I grew up in central New York. I was born downstate, but my family moved up here when I was young. So it’s really mostly what I know. And I was just kind of oddly interested in holistic medicine from a really young age, like being a freshman in high school. And it started off with interest in diet and nutrition. So I grew up vegetarian and then I became interested in being a vegan. And that led me just through reading, really led me to learn about Ayurveda, um, and like cleansing and holistic nutrition. And that kind of guided me to learn about meditation and that’s kind of where it started. And then I developed an interest in herbal medicine and I just became kind of obsessed with it. And it became kind of like my hobby and I would experiment on stuff with myself, nothing dangerous, which is like using herbs that I could get locally and like making myself little vitamins and capsules.

Chelsey Mollin: I definitely had no idea what I was doing. But it was just really where my interest lied and I felt very strongly about natural medicine. And when I went to college that wasn’t even on my mind a little bit as something to study a direction that I wanted to go. I actually went, I thought that I wanted to study linguistics and teach English as a second language. So I went and majored in humanities and social sciences in undergrad. And one day, my first semester at community college, I just really had this aha moment where I was reading an herbal book. And I was like, oh my God, why don’t I just do this? I could study this and this, I could go to school for this. And like, this could be my career. So I really don’t attribute that to anything other than a pure realization.

Chelsey Mollin: Um, so right then and there, I switched all of my, the direction of all of my undergrad studies to set me up to transfer into grad school. So I had to finish my undergrad before I could study Chinese medicine. So at the time I really didn’t know anything about acupuncture. It wasn’t where my interest lied at all. I was really interested in studying herbal medicine and it was really just romanced by it and fascinated with the idea that the earth really provided, like anything we could ever want or need for any possible situation or want or desire. And I, so I, but I wanted to study at a higher level. I didn’t want to just like go get a certificate or go through a short program. So I found this graduate program that was acupuncture and Chinese medicine and herbal medicine. So that’s what led me to the program that I studied.

And while I was there, acupuncture kind of was the main event. So URS was obviously important and nutrition was important and bodywork was important, but it was really like acupuncture was what was everybody, what everybody was there for. So that kind of colored my attitude towards Chinese medicine. And when I came out of school, that was that colored my practice. So working in orthopedics, helping people with pain and kind of came away from my original interest in herbal medicine and nutrition. And then just kind of naturally as I was going through a private practice, I just organically made that switch slowly back to focusing on or herbs and, um, and nutrition and like helping people with their lifestyle. And I’m just kind of then transforming into that little by little. And now my practice is really mainly nutrition or medicine and lifestyle. And like acupuncture is like, in my opinion, the least interesting thing about my practice.

So, um, yeah, so that’s really how I got into Chinese medicine and how I got to where I am now doing the online approach and really the more holistic and empowering approach was something that was very much inspired by the shutdown. But last year when everything was shut down a really successful private practice doing acupuncture and bodywork and still doing herbs and nutrition and everything, but that’s really what kind of, I hate to use the word force because I have something that I wanted, but it just opened the doors for me as an option. And I found so much joy in the more of the consulting aspect and helping people really help themselves because it is just really fulfilling to help people help themselves versus me providing a treatment for them.

Leah Gervais: Right, right. Amazing. So, um, I have so many questions I could talk to you about your story forever. So it was my first question, just like from an entrepreneurial perspective is: so you’re in community college and I know you’re pretty early on. So it sounds like you have a ton under your belt, but did you feel any sense of risk when you decided to go into Chinese medicine instead of linguistics, the way you had planned? Um, did you have any fear around what that would lead to as a career path or were you just at that time, like focused on studying what you enjoyed?

Chelsey Mollin: Yeah. I wasn’t scared or apprehensive at all. I think part of that is being so young. I was only 18. Um, and I just felt so confident in it and it felt, it felt like such a full body yes moment where I had that aha moment. Um, and I felt so excited by it and I didn’t really think much about what it would look like as a career. And didn’t really think about what it looked like as a career really, until after I graduated, I was just so focused, um, learning and I love being a student and I love being a student of herbal medicine and just medicine in general. So, um, yeah, it was a very exciting and not fear-driven decision.

Leah Gervais: I love what you said about a full body, yes. I think I’m going to come back to that with other other questions for you, because I think that’s a powerful thing for any decision. So when you graduated from the program that you did and you did start opening your own practice, what did, what was that experience like for you mentally? And like from a business perspective, um, simultaneously becoming an entrepreneur, uh, knowing that you were great at your craft, but now also in a sense of needing to start your own business was please tell me about that a little bit.

Chelsey Mollin: Yeah. So that really turned my world upside down. So you graduate from school and you’re learning all the time and you’re in a student clinic where you see, um, like five to seven patients a day. And like it’s always busy and no one teaches you anything about business or about sales, or how to think about your practice as a business or anything remotely like that. So when I got out of school, I was very lucky. I had a connection in Syracuse where I live with an amazing massage therapist and I ended up renting space from them, but I realized very quickly that I didn’t want anything to do with it. And I actually applied to do a fellowship in New York city, um, as a assistant to a doctor who specializes in orthopedics and clinical nutrition in New York. And I didn’t think at all that I was going to get accepted in this program.

And I did. So I very quickly changed my plan. And I went on to New York and I did this year long fellowship where I assisted this doctor. And I, when I look back on it in hindsight, I think that that was a little driven by being scared to own my own business. And also I just, at the time really didn’t want anything to do with it. I was like, I just want to do acupuncture and talk to people and help people. I don’t want to mark it. I don’t want to do all this other stuff and the financial aspect of everything. 

So long story short, while I was down there I realized that I did want to do it, I did want to run my own business and I did want to do my own thing. So I came back to Syracuse after that and I decided to do it on my own. And I was so surprised how much interest I had in it and how much I loved having the vision and like being responsible for everything and making it my own brand. And so that has developed even more so, so that was three years ago. And, um, yeah, I never ever envisioned myself as a business owner or entrepreneur or let alone like the endeavors that I am now with the mastermind and like really going for it. So it’s been really exciting and fun and life is just full of twists and turns.

Leah Gervais: So what advice would you give to someone that say knows that they love health coaching, or they know that they love, um, graphic design or they know that they really have a passion and a gift and a talent in a certain craft, but they either don’t know how to start a business around that, or don’t know if they could, or don’t know where to even begin. What do you think is a good first step to see if you can actually be the one that has the vision behind your talent? Not just work for someone else, if that’s what people want. I know it’s not for everyone, but for those who are interested. 

Chelsey Mollin: Yeah. I would say that I think finding, I mean, this might not be the right advice for everybody, but working under somebody else, I think is actually a really powerful experience. And I don’t think I ever would have realized that I didn’t want that had I not gone through that? Um, I think I might’ve just gotten caught up in like all the negatives about it. So I would say exploring different- how providing that service can look differently and sticking your toes in a bunch of different, or not a bunch, but a couple of different options. And maybe doing, if you can do both simultaneously, because there are so many pros and cons. And, um, someone was just asking me yesterday, a girlfriend of mine who actually is like this avatar of somebody who wants to provide this service that she has online, but she has been a teacher forever and she is just not sure.

And she just isn’t sure if she wants to take the risk. And she asked me, what’s it like being responsible for my own income? And I said, well, I would be lying if it wasn’t overwhelming at times, um, there have been moments, especially early on where I was jealous of other people, my age that had a paycheck. And I felt like they were less stressed than me, but it also comes with all the freedom and the sky being the limit. So I think weighing the pros and cons and like feeling what calls to you is really useful because for some people having a paycheck that is the pro and that is valuable to them or something for somebody else like me, that freedom is more valuable. So really feeling into like what you want out of life. 

Leah Gervais: Yeah. Like what’s the bigger picture? Is it the, the security of the paycheck, the effectiveness, the lack of stress, or is it the freedom and the limitlessness? And I think obviously entrepreneurship is more stressful. Obviously you don’t know where your paycheck is coming from, but I also think that stress can be a choice. And I think that you can allow things to be as stressful or not as you like them to be. Um, and I think that everyone is stressed about something. I mean, I just feel like in our modern day society, you know, everyone kind of has something that they could be stressed about. 

So it’s almost like take what you pick the trade off because no matter what you’re going to have those experiences. And actually, I think that that kind of is a good segue. Um, for, for other questions I want to ask you, which is about managing your health and your energy as an entrepreneur. So, um, you’re a female entrepreneur, you work with female entrepreneurs, you obviously know a lot about what goes into running a business. Um, how do you manage your stress?

Chelsey Mollin: I manage my stress mostly through exercise and meditation. So just really trying to center myself, I definitely have like body type and tendency to get overwhelmed easily. So making sure I take time to not get overwhelmed is imperative because it will happen organically that as just like a part of, not who I am, but just like something that I have a tendency to gravitate towards. Um, and then things that attribute to that, of our sleep and nutrition. So nutrition is a big one for me. Of course it’s important for everybody, but I have struggled like keeping and just in modern society, you know, like going to school working, I’m sure everybody listening to this can relate, but it can be hard to prioritize, like eating three healthy meals a day. Um, I struggled with finding the right diet for me for many years. Like I said, I, you know, grew up vegetarian and experimented with a lot of different diets.

So, um, navigating what works specifically for me, rather than adhering to like what culture tells us that we should eat, or like what is appropriate or healthy, um, and really prioritizing that because it’s really easy for me to, you know, wake up in the morning and let the whole day go by without having eaten properly. So really prioritizing that is a big thing for me. And I definitely was a member of that go go, go society, like glorifying burnout culture, especially when I was in grad school that kind of like coffee for dinner kind of thing, which is like so horrifying to think about. 

So stepping out of that and, and I’ve really cooking and like meal prepping and has really become a super nourishing activity to me. And I would say that it’s very grounding for me to like prepare food and nourish myself. And I try to encourage my clients or even just people in my life to kind of reframe that for themselves because it’s so powerful. And it it’s so easy to think of eating healthy as an inconvenience, just based on the way we live our lives, but it really is the basis of so much. And I try to, I try to, um, make plans for myself. Like I would my own client. So I almost treat myself like, um, my client.

Leah Gervais: Oh, and that’s why you’re so good at what you do. That’s one of the things that I think all of you in my mastermind are really great at, which is why I think you’re all doing so well. You all really walk the walk and that’s something that I constantly have to check myself with, uh, as well to make sure that, you know, if you’re telling a client to take care of themselves, are you taking care of yourself or in my case, if I’m telling a client that they have to sell, despite their fear, am I moving forward despite my fear, or am I staying afraid? So I think it’s great that you continue to treat yourself as if you are your own client, because I think you always will be your own best client. And what do you think, um, what do you think are the most common causes of stress for entrepreneurs probably finance or just judgment? What do you think?

Chelsey Mollin: Um, the first thing that comes to mind is imposter syndrome for sure that people are so scared of what people think myself included. And I, I don’t know the exact quote, but it’s like people aren’t thinking about you, the way that they think that you think they are. So that idea of that you post something and everybody’s like, oh my God, I can’t believe she posted that. Like, no one’s saying that. So overcoming that, um, that imposter syndrome, and also as a clinician or professional or somebody with a training or certification, that idea that you don’t have any business, like helping someone or that there are other people more qualified than you. Um, and I think that’s something that for some people, or maybe for all people never quite goes away. Uh, it’s just like overcoming those voices in your head that are telling you lies because, well, one of my professors always said to me and my class that if you are, that you should be scared.

If you’re not scared to do something, then you’re not, you’re not taking the right path. Or like when you’re working with someone, if you don’t have that fear of like screwing them up or anything, like all those things just mean that you care and that you want to have integrity. So I think finding the positives of those, those voices or those imposter syndrome and like meeting them with truth is, is really helpful. And I think also, um, for women entrepreneurs, um, and this is like a huge topic, obviously, but we live in like a very masculine, dominated society. So when we’re constantly trying to walk that linear masculine path in our lives, and also in our business, we can run into a lot of problems and it can often feel like we’re doing something wrong or like we’re not the right fit, but it’s really just that we’re not operating like out of a balanced state.

Leah Gervais: Right. So, and I love how you always come back to that balance. I love how that’s such a fundamental aspect of your work as well as of Chinese medicine in general. What do you think? So if you like had a megaphone to the whole Western world and to all of us are medicine, having your background in Chinese medicine, what are like the top three things that you wish everyone could know or that you just want to give people awareness around? 

Chelsey Mollin: Okay. Top three things. So I would say the first is balance. So we, I feel that we live in a very, like all or nothing society. And, you know, I think that this is an example that maybe is easy to conceptualize. It is like dieting. So it’s like you’re on this diet and for days and days, and then one day you eat like the wrong thing. And then you’re just like, it. And then like you ruined that day and then you ruin the next day and it feels like you took 10 steps backwards, but really you could have just had that food that maybe it wasn’t the best and then figured out how to come back to balance. So I know you can’t see me, but like, if you, if yin and yang are balanced in the body, then they’re kind of like inline and it’s never perfect. So kind of accepting that things aren’t perfect and learning to listen to what balance looks like for you.

And there’s so much noise and there’s so much marketing and there’s so many ideas and this and that. So I’m really encouraging people to be really curious about themselves and find out what’s really deeply nourishing to them based on their body, their history, where they live on the globe, like what season it is, their gender, like everything. And then practice that and be open to the fact that what that is will change. So I hope that wasn’t too abstract, but so balance really helping help having people understand, or at least try to understand what balance looks like in their life personally.

Leah Gervais: Why do you think we lack balance in our Western culture or in Western medicine?

Chelsey Mollin: I think because we, well, one, like I mentioned, we live in that very like masculine driven society and, and that doesn’t even mean, so when I use the term masculine, it doesn’t necessarily mean like men it’s like that masculine energy because we all have some aspect of masculine and feminine energy in us, regardless of our, um, regardless of like how we identify. But, um, I think it comes back to that kind of like all or nothing culture. It’s like too much of a good thing or too much of a bad thing. For example, running people will being set to being too sedentary is gonna make you sick and being too active will also make you sick. So I think as Americans, we kind of can’t grasp or conceptualize that you can do too much of a good thing. So it’s like maybe you’re running 40 miles a week and you are celebrated by the grind culture, um, by engaging in that high level of activity. But Chinese medicine tells us that we need to be somewhere in the middle of that. And it’s just not it’s really. Yeah. It’s just not our culture. And, and when we were also sick as a culture. And, um, so I think that that’s really beautiful that we can learn from other areas of the world. Of course, there are some things in Western medicine that are also very valuable and meeting somewhere in the middle is, can be really beneficial.

Leah Gervais: Mm. I love that. That’s yeah, that really resonates. All right. Do you have a few others on top of your head?

Chelsey Mollin: Um, yes. So the second thing I would say is that your symptoms are your friends. So your symptoms really are all they are communicators to us. So our bodies are so smart. And that is something too that I would say is understanding like how brilliant your body really is and how innately intelligent it is and how capable it is of healing disease and preventing disease. So when we have a symptom, it is our body’s way of communicating to us that something is not quite right. And those symptoms can be as subtle as indigestion or not sleeping through the night or having dry skin. And these are things that we often overlook and as a Western society, and we wait until something is diagnosable. So a really common scenario is someone will go to their doctor because they feel fatigued and they have brain fog and they have skin issues or whatever.

And the doctor will run X, Y, and Z tests, and everything will come up normal and the patient will be sent on their way with no nothing to help them with their symptoms that they came in for. And then they’ll go back five years later, same thing, five years later, same thing until 15, 20 years later. Now the disease has developed to the point where it can show up on a lab or a blood test or a scan. And now the disease has a name. So now we’ll have a treatment where Chinese medicine and Eastern medicine in general, we don’t wait until those more dangerous diagnoses. We act like the dry skin or the fatigue is the disease even, and we name it something else. Um, so I would love for people to take action when their symptoms are just like little whispers, rather than waiting for something really scary or dangerous down the road, because the body trying to tell you, like, it’s tired or like you’re forgetful, that’s your body trying to say, like, Hey Leah like, please pay attention to me.

Like, I’m not, I’m not really liking something that you’re doing. Um, but we’re much more likely to reach for, you know, an Advil for a headache rather than ask ourselves like, well, why does my head hurt? But yeah, but that’s really so valuable. So allowing the body to communicate to you and be open to communicating back and willingness to be, I guess this would be the third thing, a willingness to be uncomfortable. Um, we as a society have kind of an odd relationship with discomfort compared to, uh, Eastern societies. So when you’re getting acupuncture, there’s a sensation. We’ll leave that I come through before. So maybe, you know, I’m talking about, we call it, (cannot transcribe) means that the, she arrives at the needle and this can feel for the patient or the person receiving the treatment, like very, a subjective sensation, like dullness or achiness or movement or pressure, and as a practitioner.

And you can also feel the arrival of the chi and this people will say that it’s uncomfortable or, or not, or, sorry, not that it’s uncomfortable, that it hurts. So as a practitioner, you have to kind of probe a little more and say like, well, can you describe what the pain is to me? And then they’ll use words like dullness or pulsing. So, but all the only word that they have to describe it is that it hurts. So we have this kind of off relationship with discomfort and that we immediately associate with pain. So allowing your body to wade in the uncomfortableness of healing or processing or transforming, rather than trying to hide from it and run from it, or nominate with a pill or a medication, because that is often the space where change happens.

Leah Gervais: How do you think that concept has helped you as an entrepreneur with your mindset and how do you think it can help those who are not used to making themselves uncomfortable? Essentially, like we’ve all had experiences in life where we’re uncomfortable. And I think we don’t give ourselves enough credit for those because a lot of them are naturally so many experiences that everyone goes through, like your first day of college or your first day at a new job, or on a first date, those are naturally out of your comfort zone things, but everyone does them. 

So we often don’t give ourselves credit for those things. And then when it comes to something like starting your business, making your first sale, we will hold ourselves back because we feel like, why would we put ourselves in those uncomfortable situations? And to your point, some people would say painful situations. Um, how can, how, how do you think about that and how can you use that concept in situations like that?

Chelsey Mollin: I love that you asked that because I feel like you have helped me so much with that. And I feel, I think now I’m laughing thinking about it because I feel like I’m always uncomfortable doing that at least at this juncture. I’m sure that I’m sure that’s just at some point. Um, yeah.

Leah Gervais: Not really Well, not for my experience anyway.

Chelsey Mollin: I appreciate that honesty. So yeah, I think that when you’re in it or I’ll speak for myself when I’m in it, I, it’s hard to see that. So I appreciate you as a mentor, like helping me see that, you know, it’s okay to wait in those waters. And it also gives me compassion towards people that I work with because I can tell someone objectively it’s okay. That, that it feels a little uncomfortable. Like, like, let’s see, let’s let it sit for a few minutes and wait and see. But when it’s you, um, it’s, it can be hard to navigate. Well, like what’s actually anxiety and, or like, something’s not right. Or what’s just like my ego trying to protect me from excelling and transforming into this new person or new stage of my business. And, uh, you were to know one way we were talking about, I think it was about raising prices or something, something along those lines, and you were talking about how sometimes it can feel like things like aren’t working or you can feel stuck really is actually like a invitation from the universe to try something different or to level up or to like take it another level.

So I think discomfort can have a multitude of messages and the more you can be comfortable with being uncomfortable, the more you can lean into your own intuition of like what that discomfort is there to say, or like, if it’s something that you need to respond to, or if it’s something that you just need to lean into, and that’s obviously easier said than done.

Leah Gervais: Yes, it is easier said than done at first. But though, I mean, so you, you said, you know, you feel uncomfortable almost all the time. And so do I, but I will say that I notice it less, it doesn’t bother me as much. It’s kind of my new normal mouse, so it doesn’t have the weight with it that it used to, but I still do feel that way almost all the time. But Chelsey, I’ve seen you really transform your business. Um, you know, in a relatively short amount of time, what you’ve done is really incredible. Um, and I think if I were to ask you, would you rather go through the discomfort that you experienced now being pushed, going to new levels, putting yourself out there more, having your business really be visible versus the discomfort that many new entrepreneurs experience where they are uncomfortable, because they don’t know where their next client is coming from, or they’re uncomfortable because of imposter syndrome or they’re uncomfortable because they don’t have enough money.

It’s like either way you’re uncomfortable. So would you rather be uncomfortable pushing yourself forward or would you rather be uncomfortable at staying where you are? And I think it’s the same for your body too, because you can either be uncomfortable getting acupuncture, which I love. And yes, it has felt very weird at times, um, or uncomfortable lifting, heavy weights, which are heavy and don’t always feel good. Um, or would you rather be uncomfortable because you don’t have any energy and you know, you don’t actually have a healthy body, so you’re not able to get through the day the way you want, either way it’s discomfort. And I think that if you can see it that way, then it’s almost like, pick your, pick your path instead of feeling like, okay, if I want to be successful, I have to force myself to be uncomfortable. You can think of it. Like if I don’t push myself, I’m still going to say uncomfortable. So I might as well try this.

Chelsey Mollin: Yeah. I love that. And it’s so in line with what we were saying about the stress, it’s like, well, you’re going to be stressed no matter what so you may as well choose what makes you happy or, um, and that is so applicable to so many aspects of life, but definitely business for sure. 

Leah Gervais: I agree. Yeah, Absolutely. So what would you say are, um, if you look at like this year specifically, because I know that this has been a big year of growth for your business, tell just brag a little bit about it. Um, or if you just want to share, like, what are three, two or three things, it can be short that you wish you would’ve known about a year ago that you now know about business or yourself or sales, anything like that

Chelsey Mollin: In regards to like Chinese medicine or more business?

Leah Gervais: More business, just because I’ve seen you change so, so quickly. And I think that there’s a lot of people who would love to have similar success for you or as you. So I’d love to hear what you really think has been the biggest turning points for you.

Chelsey Mollin: I want to say the first thing that comes to mind is mindset and how money and income is so much more than money and income, and just go so much deeper than that. And it’s so rooted in our subconscious and how we really have the power to unwire that, um, and my own power or just people’s power in general. So if you think about, there’s a Tony Robbins books, where at the beginning, he says, well, you know, millions of people come to the seminar. So why, why aren’t millions of people having the success levels? It’s not because the process doesn’t work it’s because only, I think he says like 3% of people will actually see things through to the end and like show up every day, day in and day out. So understanding the power that it’s really always up to me, whether I am going to follow through with something, or like, I’m really the creator of my own destiny.

And I think that there’s a lot of, a lot of power in that and not control like in a controlling way, but that I just have more, I just it’s up to me really. It’s not up to anybody else. Um, and the third thing I would say is goes, is combined, you know, business. And the work that I do with my clients is that we, and it’s kind of goes along with the second thing that I said is that we really have the power to create our own destiny. And our thoughts are telling us so much. 

So of course disease shows up as physical symptoms and we can treat those physical symptoms with outside medicines like herbs and nutrition and movement. But at the end of the day, if we’re not changing our thought patterns, if we’re not addressing the emotional aspect of things, if we aren’t making every moment of our lives medicinal, then we will always come back to where we were like when we take out the food and we take out the herbs, really our lives, the medicine and our body is our medicine.

And our mind is really are our biggest or our greatest medicine. And that is so powerful. And it makes people powerful beyond our own ability to conceptualize, which I think a lot of people are scared of because when we realized how powerful we really are, we also have to simultaneously take responsibility for how we’ve got, gotten to where we are. And there’s a lot of overcoming or shedding of your ego that goes along with that. So I think there’s a lot that succeeding in business and healing, your physical body, your emotional body really go hand in hand. And there’s so many similarities and so many, so many, um, so many bridges to be gapped is what I’m trying to say. 

Leah Gervais: Beautiful, beautiful. Well, congratulations on all of your success. And thank you for sharing your wisdom with us. I have three, your biggest vision lighting questions for you. Are you ready? What is your proudest business moment? So far?

Chelsey Mollin: My proudest business moment is helping a client get off of a medication that she, that she wanted to go off of that she had been on for many years for a problem that she had had for many years. And I never touched this person like with a physical treatment acupuncture, everything was done, everything that all of her successes came from, things that I helped her to do for her.

Leah Gervais: That’s amazing, amazing example. What is your go-to when you’re just not having a great day and you’re feeling frustrated or upset?

Chelsey Mollin: Go to, and I’m just not having a good day. Uh, I would say spending time with my boyfriend when he, like, when we’re both done with work for the day, and he’s just a really positive person in my life and helps to bring things back to center or can kind of pull me out of a, uh, like a negative self-talk loop. And you just, that just helps me kind of come back from being in the dumps down in the dump. Yeah.

Leah Gervais: Yeah. Good, good. Um, that’s a good answer. Do you have a go-to business podcasts or book that has really helped your journey?

Chelsey Mollin: So many. I love your podcast. I was just listening to the latest episode this morning. Um, I love Aubrey Marcus’s podcasts and his book Own the Day Lewis Howes, the school of greatness. And I recently became obsessed with Amanda Francis and read her book and love listening to her YouTube videos. Um, I love Sohara Rose’s podcast. Um, the highest self podcast, I think it’s called. And yeah, those are my main, go-to’s.

Leah Gervais: Really good ones. Amazing. Where can people find you?

Chelsey Mollin: So I’m on Instagram it is my name @ChelseyMollin. And my link in there is, has access to my website, how to book a call with me, how to take my online courses. And of course, just to connect with me in DM’s, I love chatting with people. And my favorite part of what I do, honestly, aside from helping people feel better, of course, is hearing people’s stories.

Leah Gervais: Beautiful. We will have all those links in the show notes, so you can always go there as well. If need be Chelsey, thank you so much for taking the time to share this with us.

Chelsey Mollin: Thanks so much for having me, Leah. It’s great to connect with you and I hope you have a great day.

Leah Gervais: I hope you do too. All right, everyone, go check Chelsey out. I hope that this helped you, and I hope this helps you implement some healthy habits and bring your mind, body and spirit into your day-to-day life and here is to your biggest vision!

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